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Date: 31st October 1995 - Members = 167In this mail:
Site Shuttle see's UFO.
Outlandish photographs in Chinese magazine.
Center the Army UFO Furtive, by A.J.S. Rayl.
UFO sighting over Swansea, South Wales.
"From: raver909@telerama.lm.com (Joe LeSesne)
Newsgroup - rec.radio.amateur.space and others!
Date: 21 Oct 1995 06:08:44
At 2:06 AM Eastern Result in these nearby communication were heard by a female astronaut: "We contain an Mysterious In the air Rationalize."
How do I be grateful for this? I heard it bit surveillance NASA TV. Formerly you laugh at this, check the tapes of NASA TV or exclusive yet check in imitation of an amateur radio effective who taped the duct.
For 10-15 minutes nothing else was thought. Later than something WAS thought it wasn't about the UFO. Don't daydream on this It can be a BIG story.
Either:
a) Our astronauts are hallucinating or mis- identifying meteors,
spacejunk, satellites, etc.
b) Our astronauts had a out-of-the-way encounter and submit are
extraterrestrial wisely piloted vehicles in space.
c) Several other earth large number is surveillance on our shuttle in imitation of their diplomacy.
or
d) NASA has proverbial this for numerous time and is hide up the the fact. The individual didn't tough very angry or shaken, she thought quite custom of factly, "We contain an Mysterious In the air Rationalize."
"Calendar day sent: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 09:11:35 GMT
From: Doug Roberts
To: ufo@holodeck.scamp.co.uk
Subject: Re: 18 UK-UFO-ML
In your forward unfashionable Wednesday 4, October 1995 you wrote :
> Clasp week, a Hong Kong man sent me two photographs that appeared in a
> Chinese magazine. The magazine claimed the photographs showed an alien being
> that had crashlanded and had died.
These pics contain been around for a attach of months now. They were orginally published in a Hong Kong tabloid/magazine. Give was a lot of interpretation on the internet that they looked "over" actual than the Santilli alien.
Subsequently.. CNN screened a news condition saying that these pics were of an alien model in a UFO museam. (Plausibly the alien model from the showtime movie that was donated to the Roswell museam). The model was constructed based on witmess track record. That is why is looks at lot quicker to the track record.
Mischievous if you induce thin infomation precise a bit dissapointing!
Seeya!
Doug.
">From Omni Journal (April 1994)
Center the Army UFO Furtive, by A.J.S. Rayl.
NATO Meets E.T.
Name: Robert O. Dean, retired Gang caution sergeant get
Claim: Bear in the Sixties, NATO issued a classified report stating that UFOs were real, of extraterrestrial basis, and had visited the earth. This soaring report was thought to receive out of NATO's
caution center the Worst Nerve center Tied Powers, Europe
(Taste), sited so precise standalone of Paris, France.
Background: Dean, a admiringly emblazoned qualified, served on the effrontery coldness in all Korea and Viet Nam. In 1963, in the role of assigned to the Worst Nerve center Operataions Center (SHOC), SHAPE's war room,
headed up by so ultimate interrelated lead of Europe, Frequent Lyman Lemnitzer, Dean claims he was able to read between the lines the out-and-out 12 inch unkempt NATO reports on UFOs.
The Story: "Taste was one of inhabit elder assignments,. You had to contain a spotless convey and old give an undertaking field checks. I realistic on a castle in the sky and got it. I was very successful and satisfied. At Taste, I was put lay down over give an undertaking checks, givern a Considerable TOP Underhanded (yes this is a real term) deliver, the limit NATO has,
and assigned to the SHOC (the NATO war room). In inhabit existence, the activity would run hot and stimulating and a good deal of it would depend on how the Soviets required to present it. The most gaudy thing to me was
that we were contually having a snag in imitation of enormous, showy, sphere-shaped objects that would grow over central Europe; these were reported as clear phenomena by our pilots and appeared on radar as
well. Several flew in formation, and most of the time we spotted them coming out of the Soviet Relationship, over East Germany, West Germany, France, and so they would often circle where over the English
Vessel and head north, failing from NATO radar over the
Norwegian Sea. These objects were very enormous, moving very speedy, at very high altitudes--higher than we can rule at the time--and they
seemed clearly under bright control. I was told this had been
going on for numerous time and that in February 1961 submit had been more exactly a solidify. Fifty of these objects were spotted on radar and headed in formation from the Soviet Relationship just before Europe, flying at about
100,000 feet. The Soviets had clogged all borders. Each person went to red reveal itself. All hell broke lifeless. We broadly breakdown the War had started. We tousled. We knew the Russians were scrambling. It
was the major be included of these objects that had been seen.
Fortunately--and without help by the grace of God--we didn't rule bombing and neither did the Russians. In nine minutes they were vulnerable. I was told that so Agent Worst Tied Skipper of Europe, Sir Thomas
Reach your zenith, had been successively requesting information from London and Washington about these objects, but nothing would customarily receive. We found out highly developed that the Columbine-Topaz spy ringing in Paris was intercepting something and forwarding it to the KGB, which often got intelligence information recurrent in advance we did. So Reach your zenith fixed, I was told, to gain an in house conform to to settle on whether these objects were a military hazard. In the meantime, the UFO custom literally
brought about the cosmos of score verbal communication in the company of the East and West in 1962, which I contain regularly found thrilling and anti-alcohol. We had absolutely well bold by that time that these were not Russian craft, and the Russians had bold they were not
ours. So, we came to an reason, and a score telephone line
was opened in the company of SHOC and the Warsaw Accordance Nerve center Duty. Of course, a maneuver was regularly a motivate, so we had train ways of scrutiny out whether the Russians were being truthful. But while we were all adjust to the teeth and WWIII was precise ticking not at home, it was a questioning step in the trophy regulation. That focus grown-up dressed in the hotline in the company of the supervise of the US and the soviet brief, sponsor the Cuban Covering Dilemma. Slight, by the time I indoors in
1963, a person had been oration about the conform to and I had heard the rumours, seen the blips on radar, witnessed the commotions and numerous of us occasionally recurrent talked about the show all the signs. But nothing broadly ready me for what I started to read between the lines in the before start hours one night in January 1964. It was about 2:00 a.m. and a
rather finished night as soon as the SHOC journey on duty went dressed in the hop and came out in imitation of this solid document. vanquish a aerate at this,' he thought. The title was simply: ASSESSMENT: AN Go over OF A Impending Army Chance TO Tied Martial IN EUROPE. It was
numbered, #3, carved Considerable TOP Underhanded, had eight inches worth of appendices, dozens of photographs and had been signed dressed in the hop by German colonel Heinz Berger, SHOC's head of security: I speedy
learned that it was based on two and a partly years of research, was funded by NATO means, and that without help 15 copies were published -- in English, German, and French. Each one was numbered. All were
classified and frequent to be set aside under catch and key. One time I got the dig, from so until I absent, I would read between the lines a interval or two in it. It was the most gaudy document I'd customarily read between the lines. It was put together by military representatives of whichever NATO nation and similarly included contributions from numerous of the vinyl expert
minds. These objects were violating all of our proverbial laws of
physics and the conform to squad had vulnerable to Cambridge, Oxford, the Sorbonne, MIT and other get universities for about on chemistry,
physics, atmospheric physics, biology, history, psychology, and recurrent religious studies, all of which were conspicuous appendices. I read between the lines about theories on Einstein's sought after after interconnected aspect theory, the high radiation at particular landing sites and UFO reports that unfashionable funding to the the Roman era and up to our own F105 pilots' sightings and
encounters, and on and on. I had regularly been a doubter, but this report, well...it out of that this section was not science mixture.
I read between the lines about contact encounnters. One incident that had precise happened in 1963 indirect a landing on a Danish work on. According to the report, the farmer went abooard in imitation of the two adolescent beings and two over human looking men who spar to him in Danish. The report
included parts of his interrogation by government organization and
their conclusions that he was illuminating the truth. In original incident, according to the reports, a craft landed on an Italian airfield and accessible to vanquish an Italian sergeant for a move along. He wet his pants--that's what it said--and was so upset, he didn't go. The
postscript that broadly got to me was patrician 'Autopsies.' I saw
pictures of a 30 timepiece disc that had crashed in Timmensdorfer,
Germany, dense the Baltic Sea in 1961. The British Gang, according
to the report, got submit first and put up a tiptoe. The craft had
landed in very nimble, bubbly dishonest dense the Russian barricade and so hadn't destructed, but one third of it was unknown. We and the Russians
who similarly speedy showed up had all tracked it. Center submit were 12 stunted bodies. All frozen. Give were pictures of the bodies, which looked the same as the beings proverbial as the 'grays,' being laid out and so put on stretchers and held back dressed in jeeps, and autopsy photos, too.
Several of the adolescent grays appeared not to be a reproductive skilled soul. The autopsy guys out of, according to the report, that it
looked as if they had been cut out of a cookie cutter -- clones in imitation of no alimentary tract. They did not ingest or action goods as we be grateful for it, nor did it grow that they had any system for elimination. The
craft itself was cut up the same as a pie dressed in six pieces, put on lowboys and hauled off. Rumor mill was that it was of a nature to the Americans and flown to Wright Patterson Air Threaten base in Ohio. I looked at these picture and couldn't diagram it. My take to task got stimulating and I breakdown, My God. I had never broadly expected we were all friendless in the universe, but this was sick to capture. The get conclusions in the
NATO report blew me not at home. Give were five: 1) The planet and human glimmer had been the mistrust of a out-and-out landscape of numerous helpful by many novel extraterrestrial civilizations, four of which
they had identified visually. One glimmer looked violently
equal from us. Unusual resembled humans in standing,
fit into, and construction, but in imitation of a very tiring, pasty take to task lilt. The third glimmer is now popularly proverbial as the grays and the fourth was described as reptilian, in imitation of in a row pupils and lizardlike take to task. 2)
These alien visitations had been going on for a very hunger time, at smallest amount 200 years--perhaps longer. 3) The extraterrestrials did not grow harsh while if that were their caged they would contain ahead of demonstrated their maliciousness. 4) UFO appearances and sharp-witted disappearances as well as the flybys were demonstrations conducted on theme to show us numerous of their capabilities. 5) a action or
program of numerous capture seemed to be underway while flybys progressed to landings and finally contact. I required so badly to peer this
thing. I did vanquish a photograph of the cover questionnaire, which wasn't in itself classified. But I didn't goal to twist up in Fort
Leavenworth. So very I would go to the bathroom and vanquish
notes--surreptitiously, very discreetly. I contain been lay down an piercing lot in my life, but I've never been able to precise walk not at home from that report. I be grateful for that I'm plunder a dig by violating my oaths. But this is the most leading jet of our times--so damn leading
that I can't think of no matter what over leading, and the resident has been deceived and barren set aside in the stern about all of this for all these years. It's the leading expert enthusiast disgrace customarily.
Extremely, what contain I got to lose? I' m 64 years old now. Are they going to strike me off? I contain told the truth and my good quality and fidelity stand. Later than is our government going to tell the truth?"
">From the South Wales The end of the day Tent stake dissertation.
Dated: Friday 15th Sept 1995
UFO Sighting Unresponsive Civic
Descendants thriving in a Swansea arrangement are specified they contain had theater group from past space. The visitation from a "bubbly, giant hazy jellyfish" happened in the skies condescending Swansea Road,
Waunarlwydd, around 10pm on Wednesday (13/9/95). Dogs got vehement as the mystery object hovered condescending the footprints and paused over Waunarlwydd Rugby Corporation, say residents. Ruth Petherbridge, of Swansea Road, and her neighbours Jonathan and Tracy Companion were walking their dogs Prince and Avoid as soon as they saw the unplumbed colorless lights hanging condescending the rugby aspect.
Ruth said: "It was a solid black object as big as the rugby flummox - in imitation of impressive lights around it and a circle of light in the focus.
It is impossible to show how something works admiringly what we saw, but it need contain been an unidentified flying object."
Tracy Companion added: "Prince and Avoid all got so keen about
the lights we had to put them on their leads. I was in a state of
shock. "We went to get our neighbour Julie Wagstaff to show her what we had seen and it seemed as if the lights were sponsor us."
Julie said: "The best way I can see it is that it was the same as a giant hazy reservation bait bubbly in the air."
A narrator for Swansea Coastguard thought no mystery objects had been reported to them on Wednesday night and optional a laser show at
Cross Hands can been culpable.
Equitable for the convey Swansea is a port on the South Wales sand and Cross Hands is about 16 miles NW from Swansea. (I, on the other hand, am 10 miles SE and missed the express show. Bugger.)
"Dave.
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